The loading of fokol debate, interest rates, and the efficacy of cardboard box incubators

Investment banker Mark Barnes and Business Maverick editor Tim Cohen unwrap the news. Produced by Mark Barnes, Tim Cohen & Tevya Turok Shapiro. Edited by Tevya Turok Shapiro. Music & Design by Bernard Kotze. Created by Mark Barnes, Tim Cohen, Bernard Kotze & Branko Brkic.